that's a big problem. >> what's unique about the united states is the united states has done better over the past 30 years than countries which have decided to keep tax rates high and keep their industries regulated. by lowering marginal tax rates, by deregulating has given the u.s. a huge advantage over countries that haven't. >> the times we did best of all is when bill clinton was president. i think we ought to have the same tax rates we had when bill clinton was president. >> can we get spending down to 18% of gdp like bill clinton? does that come with that? >> i'd be happy to do that as long as we could raise taxes to the way -- >> the president would not. >> last word. >> the fact of the matter is that all this talk about tax cuts is nonsense. it advantages a particular group of people who are already at an advantage. >> that's class warfare. >> it's fitting we end on an equality note given what's happening outside the doors of this exchange. >> be careful. >> governor, j.p., thank you guys. see you next time. >>> when we come back, banks getting a boost from qe-3 but pulling back